A Conservative MP whose constituency includes parts of the Harrogate district has said 80 bus services in North Yorkshire are under threat.
Nigel Adams, who represents Selby and Ainsty, revealed the number during Prime Minister’s Questions in Parliament today.
Mr Adams, whose constituency includes Spofforth and Follifoot, told Rishi Sunak that last month bus operator Arriva stopped the only bus between Selby and Doncaster, leaving 40 Selby College students having to find alternative transport at short notice.
He added:
“Additionally across North Yorkshire about 80 other bus services are now under threat.
“Can he advise what action he will take to ensure that essential bus services are not withdrawn at short notice and ensure that these continue to be operated across Selby district and wider North Yorkshire?”.
Mr Adams said fellow North Yorkshire MP Mr Sunak, who represents Richmond, knew how “crucial” bus services were.
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The Prime Minister replied:
“I’m pleased that the Chancellor has allocated funding for extra bus services across the country and I look forward to working with him (Mr Adams) to ensure that the money finds its way to rural areas like North Yorkshire to provide the connectivity that’s so important for people to have opportunity and get access to public services.”
Buses on a cliff edge?
Today’s comments by Mr Adams will fuel concerns about the future of many rural bus services in the Harrogate district.
Last week Cllr Keane Duncan, executive member for highways and transportation at North Yorkshire County Council, said the county’s bus network was “facing a really grave situation”.
He added:
“The message across the county is use it or lose it. We need people to support these services.”
Liberal Democrat councillor for Pateley Bridge, Andrew Murday, said residents of his division faced having just two services a day to Harrogate.
He said:
“We just have to do something about bus services, and encourage more people onto buses. We need to know how we are going to go about discouraging people from driving and encouraging people on to buses, so bus services can thrive.”
Seven months ago the government rejected the council’s bid for a £116m share of Boris Johnson’s high-profile Bus Back Better initiative, saying the local authority’s plans lacked ambition.
North Yorkshire transport boss warns bus network faces ‘really grave situation’
North Yorkshire County Council’s transport boss has issued the stark warning that the county’s bus network is “facing a really grave situation”.
Councillor Keane Duncan, executive member for highways and transportation, made his remarks after a meeting where members representing communities across North Yorkshire heard many commerically-run services were in peril or being downgraded.
Seven months ago the government rejected North Yorkshire County Council’s bid for a £116m share of Boris Johnson’s high-profile Bus Back Better initiative, saying the local authority’s plans lacked ambition.
The council has been trialling Yorbus, a demand-responsive transport scheme around Ripon and Masham in the hope of finding a sustainable public transport solution for rural areas. It is yet to announce any alternative public transport proposals to its rejected plans.
A meeting of the authority heard opposition members highlight the importance of public transport as a means of cutting carbon emissions and question the authority’s intentions over investing in the area.
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Liberal Democrat councillor for Pateley Bridge, Andrew Murday, said residents of his division faced having just two services a day to Harrogate.
He said:
“We just have to do something about bus services, and encourage more people onto buses. We need to know how we are going to go about discouraging people from driving and encouraging people on to buses, so bus services can thrive.”
The meeting heard a call from Scarborough Labour councillor Tony Randerson for a “nationalised bus service”.
Cllr Duncan responded saying bus services in the county were facing unprecedented pressure due to higher costs and passenger numbers had fallen to just 80 per cent of pre-covid levels.
He said:
“For many of the routes that represents the difference between profitability and not profitable services.
“It is important to point out that the bus network is North Yorkshire is facing a really grave situation. I think unprecedented pressure as a result of reduced passenger numbers, as a result of higher costs.”
He added: “The message across the county is use it or lose it. We need people to support these services.”
He said the authority subsidised routes to the tune of £1.6m annually, but the situation in the county would “outstrip that many times over”, adding:
“That subsidy is not at a level that which we would be able to support those 79 routes, so it is a very grave situation.”
He added:
Traffic and Travel Alert: Harrogate district update“Creating a nationalised service would not solve those fundamental issues if those operators are not there to deliver those services.”
“There may be is more that we could do to become more interventionist in terms of the bus network, but at the moment the backbone of the county’s bus service is the commercial operators.”
Traffic lights on the A59 York Road near the junction with the A658 in Knaresborough, which have been causing delays this month, are due to remain in place until November 11.
Yorkshire Water has installed four-way traffic lights as it lays a new water main for a housing development.
In Harrogate, roadworks on the notorious Wetherby Road in Harrogate have been causing delays all week.
According to North Yorkshire County Council’s roadworks map, maintenance work will be carried out by Northern Gas Networks until Friday.
The map also indicates a slew of traffic lights this week on nearby Skipton Road, between the Empress roundabout and King’s Road.
In Harrogate town centre, long-term work on Crescent Road means motorists are unable to turn left at the Parliament Street junction. Traffic coming the opposite way on Ripon Road is unable to turn right.
Roadworks on the notorious Wetherby Road in Harrogate have been causing delays all week.
According to North Yorkshire County Council’s roadworks map, maintenance work will be carried out by Northern Gas Networks until Friday.
In Harrogate town centre, long-term work on Crescent Road means motorists are unable to turn left at the Parliament Street junction. Traffic coming the opposite way on Ripon Road is unable to turn right.
Work to reconstruct the landslip-hit B6265 at Red Brae Bank, Bewerley, near Pateley Bridge, is ongoing.
The road is closed and a diversion is in place via Pateley Bridge; the B6451 Dacre; Menwith Hill Road; Duck Street and Greenhow Hill village. Temporary traffic lights will be in place during the remainder of the work.
Trains and buses
Rail operator Northern is not reporting any problems on the line passing through Harrogate and Knaresborough this morning. The live departure and arrival board for Harrogate doesn’t currently show any delays.
The Harrogate Bus Company is not reporting any problems. You can get updates here.
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Stray Views: Why would Starbeck need a ‘little temple’?
Stray Views is a weekly column giving you the chance to have your say on issues affecting the Harrogate district. It is an opinion column and does not reflect the views of the Stray Ferret. Send your views to letters@thestrayferret.co.uk.
Why would Starbeck need a ‘little temple’?
In response to a Starbeck community group’s offer to take on Harrogate’s ‘little temple’.
I’m not sure why Mr Hart thinks Starbeck needs this piece of concrete but I certainly don’t feel ‘neglected’. Nor do I think having it would make anyone feel less so.
We have a library which provides an excellent service and doubles as a social hub. It is well supported by local people and businesses.
We have proactive churches and excellent councillors. We have open space and easy access to rail and bus services. Added to which there is a great community spirit.
We even have our own swimming baths. To ensure we continue to retain and keep control of these assets we need to make sure that Harrogate has a town council when everything goes to North Yorkshire.
Diane Stokes, Starbeck
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Few people using Harrogate village buses
In response to North Yorkshire County Council’s warning over bus services.
During this year I have had many days out using various bus routes though local villages just to enjoy the ride.
I have been amazed at how few people get on or off during these journeys but I bet if the bus company announced that they are stopping the service there would be an outcry from the people who live there.
Paul Smith, Knaresborough
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Traffic and Travel: Harrogate district updatesRoads
Temporary traffic lights are due to arrive today on Harrogate’s busy Cold Bath Road for five weeks as Northern Gas Networks carries out maintenance work, according to North Yorkshire County Council’s live roadworks map. This is likely to cause considerable delays.
Roadworks are also taking place on nearby Victoria Road, where a diversion is in place.
Elsewhere in Harrogate, long-term work on Crescent Road means motorists are unable to turn left at the Parliament Street junction. Traffic coming the opposite way on Ripon Road is unable to turn right.
Montpellier Road remains closed until October 12 as Northern Gas Networks carries out maintenance work.
Roadworks are also due from 9am to 7pm today on Leadhill Crescent.
Drivers should expect the usual Friday morning rush hour delays on key routes, such as Wetherby Road, Knaresborough Road and Skipton Road but it is the first Walk to School day this term, which may reduce congestion slightly.
At Blossomgate in Ripon, work is due to take place to replace and reset the kerb and improve the road.
Further afield, anyone travelling eastbound on the M62 this morning should be aware of early morning problems.
2 lanes (of 3) remain closed on the #M62 eastbound in #WestYorkshire between J29 (for the #M1) and J30 (#Rothwell) whilst recovery is ongoing for a lorry involved in a collision.
There's just over 2 miles of congestion on approach so allow extra journey time this morning. pic.twitter.com/RKU3rvh5XP
— National Highways: Yorkshire (@HighwaysYORKS) October 7, 2022
Trains and buses
No rail strikes today, but another day of strikes is expected tomorrow.
Northern, which operates services through Harrogate and Knaresborough, has urged passengers not to travel on strike days.
As for today, Northern services between Harrogate and Knaresborough going to York and Leeds are scheduled to run as normal this morning.
But rail passengers on Harrogate’s LNER services have been warned to expect disruption until the end of the weekend..
Major engineering works in the Newcastle area by Network Rail will affect many services on the LNER route during this period.
Meanwhile, the Harrogate Bus Company is not reporting any problems this morning.
You can check service updates here.
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Traffic and Travel Alert: Harrogate district update
Another day of strikes on the rail network means no trains on the Harrogate and Knaresborough line.
Roadworks are affecting several key routes in Harrogate, Ripon and Knaresborough. The wet condition are also likely to cause problems.
Roads
Delays are likely due to roadworks at York Place in Harrogate. according to North Yorkshire County Council’s live roadworks map.
Roadworks are also scheduled for Duchy Road and the lane closure remains in place at Crescent Road.
The roadworks on Dragon Road are due to be in place until Friday.
Delays are also expected due to work outside the Curious Cow pub, where Otley Road meets Skipton Road.
The A59 York Road, between Station Road and the A658 at Goldsborough, remains closed overnight until October 6. A diversion will be in place.
The closure will be in place while North Yorkshire County Council carries out resurfacing work. The council website says the work will be carried out between 8pm and 5am but one reader told us yesterday it was until 6am.
At Blossomgate in Ripon, work is due to take place to replace and reset the kerb and improve the road.
Trains and buses
There are no Northern trains today due to a rail strike.
The company is not operating trains today and says there will be “a very limited service on Saturday and customers are advised not to travel” when another strike is planned.
Services are also expected to be affected on Sunday, especially in the morning.
The Harrogate Bus Company has produced a guide to alternative travel on strike days. You can read it here.
Traffic and Travel Alert: Harrogate district update
National Highways is warning of three-mile delays on the M62.
Roadworks remain in place outside the tourist information centre in Harrogate town centre.
Rail strikes return tomorrow.
Here is your Stray Ferret traffic update.
Roads
National Highways issued a news release at 6.05am warning motorists the M62 in West Yorkshire is closed between junctions 25 (Brighouse) and 26 (Bradford). The incident has cleared but at 6.40am there were still long tailbacks.
All lanes have now reopened on the #M62 in both directions between J26 (#Bradford) and J25 (#Brighouse) following the earlier @WestYorksPolice incident. There is still approx. 3 miles of congestion on approach both ways, please allow extra time for your journey this morning. pic.twitter.com/AiEUPKD54E
— National Highways: Yorkshire (@HighwaysYORKS) October 4, 2022
In Harrogate town centre, roadworks remain in place outside Harrogate tourist information on Crescent Road. There is no left-turn for traffic turning left at the end of Parliament Street and no right-turn for traffic travelling right in the opposite direction on Ripon Road.
Temporary traffic lights are due to be installed on Cold Bath Road for five weeks later this week.
The A59 York Road, between Station Road and the A658 at Goldsborough, remains closed overnight until October 6. A diversion will be in place.
The closure will be in place while North Yorkshire County Council carries out resurfacing work. The council website says the work will be carried out between 8pm and 5am but one reader told us yesterday it was until 6am.
Delays are also expected today at Castlegate in Knaresborough where junction markings are being refreshed,
As previously reported, a main road out of Pateley Bridge will be closed for six weeks as repairs are carried out at Fellbeck bridge on the B6265.
Signs for a diversion and a temporary crossing over the river for pedestrians and cyclists are in place.
Trains and buses
Northern is not reporting any problems for commuters on the Harrogate and Knaresborough line this morning. The only incident is that no services are stopping at Rotherham Central due to the attempted theft of signalling cables.
But remember, another train strike is due tomorrow, crippling local services.
Disruption is expected on Harrogate’s LNER services until October 9 due to major engineering works in the Newcastle area by Network Rail.
The Harrogate Bus Company has not posted details of any service issues this morning.
‘Sink or swim’ for North Yorkshire bus routes over next six months
North Yorkshire’s transport chief said the next six months will be “sink or swim” for some bus routes amid a lack of funding from central government.
Cllr Keane Duncan, executive councillor for transport at North Yorkshire County Council, said while £336,000 from government for bus services was “better than nothing”, it was a fraction of the £116 million previously asked for by the county council.
The Department for Transport awarded the council the funding to help with staff capacity in its enhanced partnerships team, which helps to draw up funding bids and works with operators.
The figure is significantly less than the £116 million bid made under the council’s Bus Services Improvement Plan earlier this year, which ministers turned down.
Cllr Duncan said the authority would continue to “face up to immense challenges” of maintaining bus services. He added that for some routes, it will prove to be “sink or swim”.
Cllr Duncan said:
“£336,000 is obviously better than nothing. But putting this into perspective, this is equivalent to less than 0.3% of our original £116 million Bus Services Improvement Plan bid.
“This is a pretty gutting state of affairs for the team who worked on our bid. I can’t hide that. Sadly, the fund was significantly oversubscribed and we were one of several authorities to miss out.
“The task now is to make the most of where we’re at. The enhanced partnership met earlier this month for the first time. This was a very positive meeting, with representatives of all of the county’s operators in attendance.
“We are facing up to immense challenges over the next six months, which will prove to be a sink or swim period for many routes.”
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Cllr Duncan added that the council would continue to look at improving bus services, despite having its multi-million pound funding bid rejected.
He said:
“It is only by the council and operators working closely together and sharing intelligence that we will be able to face up to these immediate challenges facing our network, protecting existing services as far as possible while making steps forward to improve the service provided to the public.”
Ahead of awarding the council staff capacity funding, the government said the grant would help it continue to work with bus companies.
In a letter to council officials, it said:
YorBus: On-demand service’s running costs are twice as much as regular buses“We understand that this funding does not replace Bus Services Improvement Plan funding to spend on transforming your bus services.
“But we do hope it will help to support your ongoing work with operator partners, especially working through an enhance partnership or franchising arrangement, to deliver better bus services (whether they are commercial or tendered) and enable you to use local bus funding to best effect and attract future bus funding as it becomes available.”
More questions have been raised over whether North Yorkshire’s on-demand bus scheme is value for taxpayers’ money after it was revealed it costs twice as much to run than regular services.
A North Yorkshire County Council meeting heard YorBus costs the authority around £18 per passenger journey, while normal timetabled services cost £9 on average.
The pilot scheme was recently extended for another year in the Ripon, Masham and Bedale areas, and allows passengers to book services via an app.
In total, YorBus cost the council £229,000 last year, and another £230,000 has been set aside for the remainder of the trial until June 2023.
At Thursday’s meeting of the Skipton and Ripon Area Constituency Committee, Settle councillor David Staveley said he was concerned about the costs and that taxpayers outside the trial area were not seeing any benefits.
He said:
“There are 850 active riders for YorBus in a population of several hundred thousand and I’m sure the rest of us who aren’t benefiting from this service might not think it is the best use of taxpayers’ money.
“I’m just a bit worried that it sounds like a blank cheque.”
The council launched YorBus to provide public transport in poorly-served areas and has repeatedly stated its ambition to roll-out the scheme across the county.

A total of 13,426 passenger journeys were completed in the first year which transport officer Andy Clarke said went “beyond our hopes”.
However, campaigners have previously argued that the council should be setting much higher ambitions.
Mr Clarke told Thursday’s meeting that passenger numbers were increasing and that the costs of running the service were “coming down all the time”.
He added:
“YorBus is attracting a different customer base. This is not just people transferring off existing local bus services – it seems to be new customers coming along as it definitely offers something different.
“What we will be looking to do is reduce the cost figure for YorBus and then make some more detailed comparisons with other lower density rural services.
“We very much need to understand what we can get out of YorBus and how well it can perform.”
YorBus uses two 14-seater buses which are wheelchair accessible.
Its fares were recently increased in August with a single journey costing £2 for adults and £1 for a child, while under-fives travel free and concessionary bus passes can also be used.
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On demand Yorbus sees over 13,000 trips in first year
More than 13,000 journeys were taken using the on demand YorBus service in its first year of operation.
Data from North Yorkshire County Council showed that 13,426 journeys had been taken by the end of July, requested by 850 riders.
In July 2022, there was an average of 51 trips per day.
The bus service serves an area to the north and west of Ripon including Masham, West Tanfield and Bedale.
The pilot scheme, started in July 2021, has now been extended for another year.
The statistics are included in a report on the service’s first year which will be discussed by the council’s Skipton and Ripon area committee next week.
Increasing journey numbers
Journey numbers have gradually increased since the start of the year.
Despite this, the council almost doubled fares for the service at the start of August to £2 for an adult and £1 for a child.
The number of journeys is also roughly seven times the council’s target for the scheme.
It initially hoped that 885 journeys would have been taken after six months.
However, the Transport Action Network has accused the council of setting the target deliberately low.

YorBus covers 217 square kilometres to the north and west of Ripon
Councillor Keane Duncan, the county council’s executive member for transport, celebrated YorBus’s first year in July. He said:
“YorBus has proved incredibly popular since its launch in July 2021, with extremely positive feedback from users.
“We will continue to review this demand-responsive service to help us explore rolling out YorBus to other parts of the county.”
The report also stated that almost half of users would drive if the service was not available. It argued:
“This shows that YorBus is helping to encourage North Yorkshire residents away from the private motor vehicle and onto public transport.”
£229,000 has been allocated to the service for 2022/23.
Next steps
The council will now look at its future plans for on demand YorBus service.
This could include group discount tickets, a joint promotion campaign with the National Trust and investigating the viability of rolling out of YorBus to other parts of the county.