Swimming club seeks further talks about use of Ripon’s new pool

A volunteer-run swimming club has said it would welcome further talks with Brimhams Active aimed at securing future use of Ripon’s new £15 million pool.

Committee members at Ripon City Swimming Club have been buoyed by support from Ripon City Council, which is calling on Brimhams Active to let the club use the newly-constructed facilities on Dallamires Lane on the same basis and at a similar hire charge paid previously at Ripon Spa Baths.

A committee spokesperson told the Stray Ferret:

“We fought for a new pool in Ripon and hope to be able to carry on our work there, training children to swim in a friendly atmosphere and a cost that families can afford.”

The club, which has taught thousands of children to swim over more than a century, saw its long-term relationship with Harrogate Borough Council come to an end in November when Spa Baths closed.

Ripon Spa Baths

The club’s Thursday evening training sessions at Spa Baths, came to an end in November

The committee spokesperson said:

“We got on very well with staff at the baths and thought that the relationship would continue at the new pool, though we anticipated that we would have to pay some more for the use of enhanced facilities.”

However, discussions with Brimhams Active — a company set up by Harrogate Borough Council to run its district-wide leisure centres and swimming pools — soon proved otherwise.

The club, which had been paying an annual hire charge of £4,500, discovered that it would need to pay a ‘commercial rate’ of £12,000 per annum if it wanted to continue its training sessions in the same way that it had operated at Spa Baths.

Faced with the prospect of being ‘priced out’ of using the new pool, the club was thrown a lifeline by Ripon Grammar School whose pool it has been using for Tuesday night training sessions run by Swim England-qualified teachers.

The spokesperson added:

“We are extremely grateful to the grammar school, without their assistance the club would not have been able to continue.”

Support from Ripon City Council

Cllr Andrew Williams, who leads the independent-controlled city council, received the support of a majority of members at last week’s full meeting when he called for Brimhams to reconsider its stance on charges to the club.

He said:

“In a city with three rivers, a canal and other areas of water, it is of paramount importance for children to learn to swim at the earliest opportunity and for this to be affordable – particularly at a time when family budgets are under pressure.”

Conservative councillor Mike Chambers, a member of the Harrogate Borough Council cabinet, said:

“The club has been listened to and concessions have been offered to them.

“The council needs to have the full picture, so that we don’t go off at half cock.”

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The Stray Ferret has asked Harrogate Borough Council if Brimhams Active would be willing to hold further discussions, with a view to reviewing the rate it charges the club.

At the time of publication, no response had been received.

Brimhams Active defends its stance on £8,000 increase for use of Ripon pool

The managing director of Brimhams Active, which operates Harrogate Borough Council’s leisure centres, has defended the company’s stance on a proposed £8,000 price increase for one of its users.

This has, however, led to a clash with Ripon City Council leader, Andrew Williams.

Volunteer-run Ripon City Swimming Club (RCSC), which has been teaching children to swim for more than 100 years, said it had been priced out of using Ripon’s new swimming pool.

The club, which had previously held weekly sessions at now-closed Spa Baths at an annual cost of £4,500, told the Stray Ferret it was ‘mortified’ by a price hike to £12,500 per annum for use of the city’s newly-constructed facility, when it opens later this year,

Cllr Williams described the increase as ‘disgusting.’

This, in turn, prompted Brimhams Active managing director Mark Tweedie to contact the council leader by email, in which he said:

“For commercial, safety and quality assurance reasons we are mandated to be the sole provider of swimming lessons in the facilities we operate on behalf of the local authority.

“In this regard we have had numerous meetings and correspondence with RCSC over a significant period of time to try and come to an arrangement that would allow the club to continue to hire the pool with an adjusted offer that meets set standards and does not duplicate the Brimhams Active Learn to Swim programme.”

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In the email exchange, which has been seen by the Stray Ferret, Mr Tweedie added:

“The Brimhams Active Learn to Swim programme is accredited by Swim England (the governing body for swimming). It teaches swimmers how to be competent and confident in the water through a recognised quality assured framework.

“Young people joining the scheme have the added value benefit of free access to Brimhams Active operated pools during any general swim sessions providing more opportunities to develop their swimming and love for swimming.”

‘We need to operate commercially’

He added:

“We have offered to work with and directly support the club to enable them to adjust their offer so they can continue to help young people develop their swimming without duplicating the Brimhams Active Learn to Swim programme.”

“Working with us to adjust their offer would enable the club to continue to hire the pool at the same rate they were previously paying. However, should the club want to maintain their current offer we have provided the option for them to hire the pool at a commercial rate recognising the club would be in effect competing with the Brimhams Active Learn to Swim programme.

“The club would also need to adhere to the same rigorous safety and quality standards as Brimhams Active. The commercial rate is an exclusive rate offered to the club and is based on the true costs of hiring the facility.

“We need to operate commercially in order to cover the operating costs of the facility as well as generate vital funds for the local authority to continue to be able to provide efficient and effective public services.”

‘You need to rethink’

In his response to Mr Tweedie, Cllr Williams, said:

“You state ‘for commercial’ as your first words and that is exactly the problem, you are seeking to use your position to have a monopoly on the way in which children are taught to swim by using only your lessons.

“The Ripon (City) Swimming Club have taught many children how to swim and in a way which is affordable for many hard-pressed families.

“You conclude again with the need to operate commercially. Might I remind you that the land upon which the yet to be opened pool sits was gifted to the children of Ripon for recreational use not for the commercial benefit of a soon to be defunct local authority.

“You need to urgently rethink your approach on this matter.”