North Yorkshire Council’s decision-making executive could hold some meetings at Harrogate’s Civic Centre instead of Northallerton, according to the council leader.
The new council formed on April 1 and replaced the seven abolished district councils as well as North Yorkshire County Council.
Geographically, it’s England’s largest council area and spans over 3,000 square miles.
But its size has led to criticism that decisions will be made far away from Harrogate residents as the vast majority of meetings take place at County Hall in Northallerton.
Like Harrogate Borough Council and North Yorkshire County Council before it, North Yorkshire Council has an executive or cabinet system of local government.
In this system, the council leader appoints and chairs the executive, which in North Yorkshire includes 10 councillors that meet a couple of times a month.
Each executive member has a specific area of responsibility – for example children and young people, highways or finance – and they collectively make the most important decisions affecting residents.
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For example, the executive will meet on May 30 in Northallerton to decide whether to put forward a full business case for the £11.2m Station Gateway scheme.
Ahead of a full meeting of the council next week, Conservative council leader Carl Les has published a statement that says he wants to hold some executive meetings at locations across North Yorkshire.
He said dates are being sought and venues must have public and disabled access as well as have live-streaming facilities, which would open up the option of using Harrogate’s £12m Civic Centre that only opened in 2017.
The new council could also choose to hold executive meetings at other former council offices it now owns in places like Scarborough or Skipton.
No changes in the executive
Cllr Les’s statement said that his executive will remain the same.
Below is a list of the ten Conservative councillors on the executive and what they are responsible for:
- Councillor Carl Les – leader of the council, also responsible for communications, safer communities and emergency planning.
- Councillor Gareth Dadd – deputy leader, executive member for finance, assets and resources, and special projects.
- Councillor Derek Bastiman – executive member for open to business, including economic development, regulatory services, the management of waste disposal and the integration of waste collection. Responsibility for building relationships with businesses and with the LEP’s infrastructure board.
- Councillor David Chance – executive member for corporate services, including legal and democratic services, overview and scrutiny committees, partnerships, performance management, customer contact, locality budgets, refugee and evacuee reception and support, NYLAF and household support fund, member support, IT, complaints and compliments, customer services including the council contact centre.
- Councillor Keane Duncan – executive member for highways and transportation, both road and rail, plus bus services and engagement with Transport for the North.
- Councillor Michael Harrison – executive member for health and adult services, including health and wellbeing board, health integration, extra care.
- Councillor Simon Myers – executive member for planning for growth, the Council’s present responsibility and preparing for the new unitary authority, as well as culture, leisure, sport and housing responsibilities.
- Councillor Janet Sanderson – executive member for children and young people’s services with responsibility for fostering and adoption, children’s social care, safeguarding and prevention.
- Councillor Greg White – executive member for working in localities, including stronger communities, area constituency committees, broadband and mobile telephony and to act as the council’s digital champion, working with parish and town councils, libraries, and other face to face contact points (registrars, coroners and records), and the council’s response to climate change.
- Councillor Annabel Wilkinson – executive member for education, learning and skills, including early years, schools, apprenticeships, FE colleges, UTCs and engagement with the skills part of the LEP.
The politician in charge of highways at North Yorkshire Council has welcomed the decision by councillors to back the £11.2m Harrogate Station Gateway proposals.
The perceived rights and wrongs of one of Harrogate’s most controversial transport schemes in decades were discussed at a special three-hour meeting of the Harrogate and Knaresborough area constituency committee on Friday.
Three Liberal Democrat councillors issued strong objections to the project, including Knaresborough West councillor, Matt Walker, who called it an “£11-million-pound vanity project”.
Stray, Woodlands and Hookstone councillor, Pat Marsh, said it was the “wrong scheme” for Harrogate.
However, Conservative councillor for Bilton and Nidd Gorge, Paul Haslam, said the scheme will benefit businesses and encourage active travel and Conservative councillor for Oatlands and Pannal, John Mann, said the changes will rejuvenate the “run-down and dated” area around the train station.
Ultimately, 10 councillors — five Liberal Democrats and five Conservatives — agreed to support the scheme with conditions. Three voted against.
‘Transformative impact’
Cllr Keane Duncan, who has had responsibility for transport on the Conservative council’s executive since Don Mackenzie retired last year, said he was pleased that councillors from opposition parties came together to back the project.
Cllr Duncan said:
“I welcome the positive, cross-party support expressed for the gateway project. The majority of councillors recognised the importance of securing this £11m investment and the transformative impact the project could have for Harrogate.
“Their support gives the executive the ability to proceed to the next stage. Input and oversight provided by local councillors will be incredibly valuable, now and into the future.”
Friday’s successful motion to support the Station Gateway was put forward by Liberal Democrat councillor for Coppice Valley and Duchy, Peter Lacey, and it came with three conditions.
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These were that the “genuine concerns” of residents and groups are listened to, local councillors have a “meaningful role” in the implementation of the scheme and that a “rigorous monitoring system” to examine its potential impact on traffic, environment and business is put in place.
The motion will be presented to the council’s executive at a meeting on May 30 when senior councillors will decide whether to submit a full business case for the project.
If approved, construction could begin by the end of this year.
Last Friday’s area constituency committee meeting was unusual in that it focused on just one topic.
And despite being an advisory body, there were more eyes on it than normal meetings because the council promised to abide by whatever decision councillors took.
North Yorkshire Council has pledged to give area constituency committees more of a say in decision-making going forward. It could mean more meetings take place place around hot-button issues in Harrogate and Knaresborough.
Reflecting on Friday’s meeting, Cllr Duncan added:
North Yorkshire Council makes ‘first step’ towards £67m of savings“With localism at the heart of the new North Yorkshire Council, it was right for the executive to seek the views of local councillors, elected by and accountable to the people of Harrogate and Knaresborough.”
North Yorkshire Council says it has already saved taxpayers £3.8m a year in the transition from eight councils to one by cutting the roles of 24 senior managers.
The council’s finance boss, Cllr Gareth Dadd, underlined that none of the senior staff would be paid enhanced severance packages as the Conservative-run authority works towards a total of £67m of efficiencies by uniting the county, district and borough councils.
The comments follow critics of local government reorganisation questioning the amount of staff salary savings that it would achieve.
Cllr Dadd’s remarks come just weeks after severance packages of £770,000 were paid to four senior officers at Hambleton District Council because they did not wish to work for the incoming unitary authority.
A highly charged meeting of the district council last November heard the directors were fearful about the ring-fenced roles they would be given at North Yorkshire Council, despite no decisions having been made about their jobs.
A meeting of the unitary council’s executive heard the total exit costs for three senior management as a result of the transition had been estimated at £513,000, which had been raised as one of the former district councils had an enhanced redundancy scheme.
However, the changes had achieved £332,000 savings of salaries, meaning it would take around 18 months for the council to benefit from the redundancies.
Cllr Dadd said the redundancy costs were “minuscule” in comparison.
He said:
“That £3.8m is the first step on our journey to possibly £67m of saving. That’s come from what some would describe as fat cats, but let’s just say the higher earners in the local government family.
“We should not lose sight of the fact that we have straightaway produced £3.8m as a result of local government reorganisation.”
The new council’s management structure has significantly fewer posts than the total for the previous eight councils, 60 compared to 36, resulting in some managers moving to the unitary authority without a specified role in the new structure.
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A number of the senior staff left prior to vesting day on April 1, in the main having secured another role elsewhere, while some planned to retire just before or shortly after vesting day, while two are undertaking duties covering work for the new council which will take them up to their planned retirement.
An officer’s report to the executive states:
‘Few teething issues’ with North Yorkshire Council launch, say political leaders“These duties make full use of their significant skills and experience to the benefit of the council and cover work areas that would otherwise require additional resource in terms of appointments, interim managers, or consultants.”
Few teething issues have emerged during first month of the new North Yorkshire Council, the leaders of its political groups have agreed.
Councillors said residents facing confusion over who to contact and delays of about 30 minutes when trying to phone the council’s call centre had been the most major cause of concern since the county council and seven district authorities fused operations on April 1.
Ahead of North Yorkshire Council’s launch its chief executive Richard Flinton warned while the authority’s basic infrastructure had been created ahead “snagging issues” were expected when the new council launched due to the scale of the merger and “eight different ways of working”.
When asked whether he was pleased with how the transfer had gone so far, the Conserative-run council’s leader, Cllr Carl Les said:
“Yes. It has gone surprisingly well, but with the amount of effort put in by Richard Flinton and his team I shouldn’t be surprised.”
He added:
“We always said if you are going to chose a time to do local government reorganisation you wouldn’t necessarily be coming out of a pandemic with a war going on in Ukraine and various other things happening.
“You wouldn’t chose to launch on April 1, when council tax bills are going out for a new authority and people renew their garden waste collection waste collections with the new authority, but still have phone numbers for the old authorities.”
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Speaking ahead of a meeting behind closed doors with Mr Flinton and the other political group leaders to discuss the council’s first month, Cllr Les said the unitary’s contact centre had become deluged, resulting in lengthy answering delays and potentially some residents hanging up.
He said:
“The contact centres have been busy and have not been as to strength as we thought they might be. We are taking steps to increase recruitment and increase training.”
The leaders of the council’s other political groups agreed no other major issues had emerged during the authority’s first month.

North Yorkshire Council civic centre at Knapping Mount.
Labour group leader Cllr Steve Shaw Wright said while the unitary authority appeared to be “generally working”, its call centre had been “an absolute abomination”.
He added:
“Selby Town Council just can’t do anything because people have been forever ringing them up because North Yorkshire’s call centre doesn’t work.”
Green group leader Cllr Kevin Foster said:
“This has been a massive undertaking and on the whole things have gone very well. There’s still lots of work to do, but if you’d asked me if I’d have accepted this when the changeover went in I would have grabbed it with both hands.”
Liberal Democrat group leader Cllr Bryn Griffiths said residents struggling to find phone numbers to contact the unitary, which was “trying to force people to use the internet a lot”, and delays in answering, had represented “a mixed start” for the unitary.
He added:
“With a big organisation of about 10,000 employees there are bound to be a few hiccups.”
Independent group leader Cllr Stuart Parsons added:
“Things could have gone better, but it also could have gone a lot worse.”
He said the centralised call centre had not appeared to work as well as “phoning the old numbers for district council call centres”.
Cllr Parsons said:
MPs Watch: Sewage concerns and illegal migration“It’s been mainly hiccups, nothing major appears to have gone wrong, which is very comforting. It’s just a question of trying to iron out the hiccups and ensuring services improve considerably.”
Every month the Stray Ferret tries to find out what our local MPs have been up to in their constituencies and in the House of Commons.
In April, North Yorkshire Council was launched after the abolition of North Yorkshire County Council, Harrogate Borough Council and the remaining districts. Meanwhile, concern was raised again over sewage being discharged into rivers.
The month also saw Prime Minister Rishi Sunak overcome a Conservative Party rebellion to pass the government’s Illegal Migration Bill.
We asked Ripon MP Julian Smith and Selby and Ainsty MP Nigel Adams if they would like to highlight anything in particular, but we did not receive a response.
Here is what we know after analysing their online presence.

Andrew Jones, Harrogate and Knaresborough MP.
In Harrogate and Knaresborough, here is what we found on Mr Jones:
- On April 1, Mr Jones spoke at the re-opening of the Games in Parks kiosk at Conyngham Hall, Knaresborough.
- Mr Jones also officially opened new independent store, Wave Aquariums, on Commercial Street, Harrogate.
- On April 11, Mr Jones welcomed £5,417,114 in new funding from the government to support local businesses and create jobs for rural communities in North Yorkshire.
- On April 12, Mr Jones attended a Copgrove village residents’ meeting to discuss a recent travellers encampment in the village.
- On April 14, Mr Jones addressed concern over sewage discharges with a video entitled “Fact Check Friday” on his Instagram.
- Mr Jones also attended a meeting with the regional director of Barratt Homes to discuss concerns at two developments within the constituency on April 14.
- Mr Jones hosted a roundtable with local cyclists to discuss active travel in Harrogate & Knaresborough on April 22.
- In the House of Commons on April 25, Mr Jones asked a question on encouraging over-50s back into work including encouraging employers to sign up to an age friendly employer pledge.
- Mr Jones voted in line with the government on the third reading of the controversial Illegal Migration Bill on April 26. The bill proposes a change in the law so who arrive in the UK by irregular means can be removed to a third country such as Rwanda.
When we contacted Mr Jones for comment, his office sent a list of his engagements for April.
Among those included attending a Kids Aloud performance at the Royal Hall, chairing all party parliamentary meetings, attending a session in Parliament with cancer charity, Sarcoma UK, and visiting local performing arts early years academy, Performatots, to learn more about their work and congratulate them on their Ofsted performance.
He also met with the Charity Retailers Association in the House of Commons and attended Anzac Day at Stonefall Cemetery to commemorate and remember the lives lost of Australia and New Zealand citizens during the world wars.
Mr Jones’ office pointed out that his engagements and activities could also be found on his Community News website and his Facebook and Instagram feeds.

Julian Smith, MP for Ripon and Skipton.
In Ripon, here is what we found on Mr Smith:
- On April 3, Mr Smith backed a residents’ campaign to buy back the Black Lion pub at Skelton-on-Ure.
- On April 25, he posted on his website that he met with independent businesses in Pateley Bridge.
- Mr Smith voted in line with the government on the third reading of the controversial Illegal Migration Bill on April 26. The bill proposes a change in the law so who arrive in the UK by irregular means can be removed to a third country such as Rwanda.
- Mr Smith made no spoken contributions in the House of Commons in April.
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Nigel Adams, MP for Selby and Ainsty which includes rural Harrogate.
In rural south Harrogate, he is what we found on Mr Adams:
- On April 11, Mr Adams tweeted his support for Yorkshire County Cricket Club president-elect Jane Powell.
- Mr Adams welcomed £5,417,114 in new funding from the government to support local businesses and create jobs for rural communities in North Yorkshire.
- Mr Adams voted in line with the government on the third reading of the controversial Illegal Migration Bill on April 26. The bill proposes a change in the law so who arrive in the UK by irregular means can be removed to a third country such as Rwanda.
- Mr Adams made no spoken contributions in the House of Commons in April.
Harrogate Civic Society has backed plans to create a Harrogate Town Council.
A second consultation on whether to set-up a town council runs until May 5.
North Yorkshire County Council said in March the move would require 35,000 households to pay an additional council tax charge of between £40 and £60.
However, in its submission to the consultation the civic society said the establishment of a town council would mean key decisions could be made by local councillors “who live in the town”.
It added it would want to see the authority take on more powers over time.

The areas in Harrogate which would fall under the new town council.
Harrogate and Scarborough are the only parts of the county not to have a parish or town council.
The civic society submission said:
“The society aims to celebrate our past, enhance our present and shape our future. We believe that this can best be done with a Harrogate town council, so key decisions will be made by local councillors who live in the town.
“We note the possible remit of the new council set out in the consultation document, but would like to see it have more of a role over time.
“This would enable opportunities to raise income, protect and enhance the key assets of the town, have a greater say in planning and development (through a neighbourhood plan), and promote a vision for the town which makes it a premier spa and floral town.”
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The group added it wished to work with the town council in future to “keep the town the jewel in the crown of North Yorkshire”.
Last week local Liberal Democrats came out in favour of the creation of a town council.
Eight Liberal Democrats, including former Harrogate borough councillors and current North Yorkshire councillors, signed a letter in support.
They said the move would enable locally-elected councillors to take control of assets such as off-street car parks, the Stray, Royal Hall, Sun Pavilion and Valley Gardens.
A total of 75% favoured setting up a Harrogate town council in last year’s first consultation but only 1,250 homes — 3.5% of those affected — responded. The low response rate triggered concerns about the validity of the response.
A second consultation into the creation of a town council will close next Friday (May 5). You can have your say here.
‘Undemocratic’ to ask Harrogate residents to pay for town council without stating its powersA consultation about a potential Harrogate town council has been called “undemocratic” because it says residents would have to pay up to £60 a year extra without stating what powers it might have.
North Yorkshire Council is running a second consultation on whether a town council for Harrogate should be created.
Consultation documents say how much residents in band D properties are likely to pay through their council tax to cover services provided by the new town council.
North Yorkshire Council said the town council’s council tax precept would allow for an annual budget in the range of £1m to £1.6m.
Knaresborough and Ripon both currently have their own councils that charge a precept to provide services such as allotments, public events and small parks.
However, it is unclear at this stage what services a potential Harrogate town council would deliver.
There would be 19 councillors elected to the town council with elections taking place on May 2, 2024.
‘Unfair and undemocratic’
Speaking at a residents’ meeting last week, Michael Schofield, the Liberal Democrat councillor for Harlow and St Georges, criticised the consultation process and said people were not sure what they would be voting for if the town council was created.
He said:
“It’s alright talking about flower beds but we still don’t know what North Yorkshire Council’s executive are going to let a town council have control of.
“It’s unfair and undemocratic not to be told what we going being asked to pay for and voting for. They need to let us know.”
His view is shared by the final mayor of the Harrogate borough, Victoria Oldham, who was the Conservative councillor for Washburn on Harrogate Borough Council until March 31.
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Ms Oldham is backing the creation of a town council but said people interested in becoming councillors should be getting around the table with North Yorkshire Council now to discuss what powers it might have.
She told the Local Democracy Reporting Service:
“There’s no point in saying you’ll have a town council if you don’t say what you’re supposed to be running so those people interested in being on the town council need to be coming together now and putting a plan forward. There needs to be some sort of mediation.
“Saying suddenly you have a town council and not knowing what you’ll be responsible for is going to be awkward.”
In response, North Yorkshire Council’s executive member for corporate services, Conservative Cllr David Chance, said:
“A town council for Harrogate is aimed at ensuring that the views of residents are represented at the most local level and helping to provide the services that are so important to the public.
“We are undertaking a consultation to get people’s opinions on the detailed
recommendations for the town council.“Harrogate and Scarborough are the only parts of the county not to have a parish or town council. When North Yorkshire Council launched on April 1 after the previous eight local authorities in the county merged, a central pledge of this change was to enable town and parish councils to take on greater responsibility if they want and are able to.
“Residents of unparished parts of Scarborough and Harrogate were invited last summer to say whether they wanted to create new town councils. More than two-thirds of residents who responded in the two towns were in favour of the idea.
“We believe that the chance for town councils for both Harrogate and Scarborough will be fundamental in making sure local democracy can be as effective as possible, and I would urge the public to have their say during the latest consultation, which is running until Friday, May 5.“
Residents can take part in the consultation by visiting www.northyorks.gov.uk/CGR. Paper copies are available by calling 01609 536400 or emailing cgr@northyorks.gov.uk.
Crime commissioner’s office to move to Harrogate Police StationNorth Yorkshire Police, Fire and Crime Commissioner Zoe Metcalfe is set to relocate her office to Harrogate Police Station.
The Conservative commissioner, whose job is to scrutinise the performance of the force as well as the fire service, will move in alongside officers on Beckwith Head Road on June 1 this year.
Ms Metcalfe’s office, which employs about 30 staff, is currently based on Granby Road in Harrogate.

The current office on Granby Road in Harrogate
The move comes as part of the commissioner’s strategy to optimise her estate and “improve partnership working and communications”.
Simon Dennis, chief executive and monitoring office at the commissioner’s office, said:
“We expect to save approximately £80,000 per year by changing our office arrangements. Like many progressive organisations, the commissioner’s team has a strong commitment to flexible, agile working and our office accommodation needs have changed in recent years.
“We have been working closely with the estates team, chief constable and chief fire officer to ensure we are all making the most efficient and effective use of the police and fire station buildings.
“In addition to our office re-location the team will also work more flexibly from home and other police and fire buildings.
“The team are really excited and are looking forward to the move which will not only save money but improve our working relationships with the police and fire service.”

Harrogate Police Station
Ms Metcalfe added:
“The public expect police and fire buildings to be used efficiently, especially at this time of strain on our finances, so I am pleased that we can make a contribution towards savings by vacating our office at Granby Road.”
The commissioner’s office said it would continue to review the use of its estates as it planned for devolution and the introduction of a mayoral office.
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North Yorkshire Council set for £513,700 redundancy payout to three senior managers
North Yorkshire Council looks set to make three former district council managers redundant at a cost of £513,700.
The council, which replaced Harrogate Borough Council and seven other district and county councils at the start of the month, is restructuring its workforce.
According to a report due before the authority’s executive, senior managers who were transferred to the council under TUPE regulations can be offered “substitute duties” which fit their job descriptions.
Some senior staff left for other jobs before the authority was formed, while others took up roles on the new council.
However, three of the senior managers are due to be made redundant after the roles they were allocated were “time-limited”.
The report said:
“There are three senior managers where the substitute duties allocated are time-limited, and on conclusion they will be in a redundancy position.
“Legal advice has been sought and confirms this position.”
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As a result, the council looks set to pay an estimated £513,700 in exit packages to those being made redundant.
None of the officers are former employees of Harrogate Borough Council.
The payments will be split by £107,000, £108,000 and £298,000.
Carl Les, leader of North Yorkshire Council, said the move to one council has helped to save £3.7 million in senior officers’ pay.
He said:
“A huge amount of work has been undertaken to bring together the previous eight councils into one and ensure that there is value for money for North Yorkshire’s taxpayers.
“The move to one single management team for North Yorkshire Council has saved about £3.7 million in pay for senior officers every year. The fact that there are only three senior managers in this situation is significantly less than other councils in this position.
“To have these managers still involved for a defined period has been of significant benefit to the new council, making full use of their skills and experience for work that would otherwise have needed extra resources in terms of appointments, interim managers or consultants.”
A meeting of the council’s executive is set to discuss the matter on Tuesday, May 2. Senior councillors have been recommended to refer the matter to full council.
In December, Unison wrote to the authority warning it not to offer senior managers more favourable redundancy terms than other staff.
The letter came as Hambleton District Council agreed to pay £767,065 to four senior officers who decided they do not wish to work for the unitary North Yorkshire Council after April 1.
The payments were agreed even though the four directors had been assured they would be offered “suitable roles” at no financial loss to themselves when they transferred to North Yorkshire Council.
Former Harrogate Borough Council chief executive Wallace Sampson negotiated a £101,274 redundancy pay-out before his departure at the end of March.
Staff from former district councils now working at Harrogate’s Civic CentreStaff who previously worked for some of the county’s abolished district councils are now working at Harrogate’s Civic Centre.
The building on St Luke’s Avenue was the headquarters of Harrogate Borough Council until March 31 when it was abolished to make way for the unitary authority North Yorkshire Council.
Councils for Hambleton, Craven, Scarborough, Richmond, Selby, Ryedale, plus North Yorkshire County Council, were also abolished.
One of the big questions about local government reorganisation was what would happen to the Civic Centre which only opened in 2017.
To help pay for the build, the council’s old offices at Crescent Gardens were eventually sold to developer Impala Estates for £4m.
Reorganisation had been mooted for many years and when the council decided to make the move, critics said the project could become a white elephant in the event of Harrogate Borough Council no longer existing.
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However, North Yorkshire Council’s Conservative leader Carl Les has reaffirmed his commitment to using the building and said it would not be sold as the authority looks to save money.
When asked how many staff are currently working at the Civic Centre, Cllr Les said:
“The number of staff using the Civic Centre on a day-by-day basis does vary, so it is difficult to provide an exact figure. However, staff who were previously employed by other councils in North Yorkshire before the new authority launched have been regularly working from the Civic Centre.
“We will be looking to rationalise the property estate which the new council has inherited.
“However, we will retain the Civic Centre and look to focus more staff on using it as a base as the property rationalisation rolls out.”
Cllr Les said each former district area will retain one main office, which will be supported by around 30 “customer access points” in places like libraries.
He added:
“The main office enables you to continue to access all the support, advice and services you always have, but now all from one council. More than 80% of our staff live in North Yorkshire and take pride in delivering good services for their communities, families and friends.”